Perch V4 (and future) Megathread

Quote from Gareth S

Our current timeline is to release V4 by the end of June...

Is it still the plan to release V4 this month? Has 3.3 been confirmed? And will it come before V4 or is it a kind of bonus update for Perch 3?

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I know we keep saying this sort of thing, but the Perch community is very twitchy. A long period of disappointment and dissatisfaction has made many of us pretty jaded. Any gaps in communication create a vacuum into which all sorts of speculation will get drawn.

Thanks for the reply. So we can still expect version 4 by the end of the month?!!

Hi,

So does that mean 3.3 is effectively cancelled?

I am keen to know about V4 but as there is no pricing information available, I would be happy for 3.3 this year and while I am aware of e-commerce issues surrounding the Shop plugin, I am personally more interested in development of the CMS itself.

All the best

Another off-the-cuff feature request:

It would be nice if when adding new regions, that the order is preserved, i.e., when using perch_content_create() so that you don't need to recreate a region, simply to preserve a visual order.

Does anyone else experience the issue of random order region creation? Having to open another tab and manually copy/paste information is a real drag actually, and should be addressed before Perch becomes a subscription-based service, at least in my opinion.

Also, as stated before, having to press Save twice on the Details and Settings pages, is a real inconvenience so put these two things together and in my view at least you have a very user-unfriendly CMS notwithstanding that depending on what control or text field you have entered data; data may actually be lost which adds frustration to the whole experience.

Are these the sorts of things that Perch developers and the developers of Perch want going forward?

Quote from nascent

Does anyone else experience the issue of random order region creation? Having to open another tab and manually copy/paste information is a real drag actually, and should be addressed before Perch becomes a subscription-based service, at least in my opinion.

Also, as stated before, having to press Save twice on the Details and Settings pages, is a real inconvenience so put these two things together and in my view at least you have a very user-unfriendly CMS notwithstanding that depending on what control or text field you have entered data; data may actually be lost which adds frustration to the whole experience.

Are these the sorts of things that Perch developers and the developers of Perch want going forward?

You're not alone in this. I had a similar thread a while back.

A perch_region_order would be fantastic to semantically control the order regions are shown in the admin area as they are a little unpredictable when trying to insert a region in between two existing regions.

It would be nice if when adding new regions, that the order is preserved, i.e., when using perch_content_create() so that you don't need to recreate a region, simply to preserve a visual order.

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I can’t wait for the release of Perch 4 tomorrow as promised 🧐

Sorry to add this here but I seem unable to create my own Topic / question.

I am completely new to Perch.

Ihave an issue migrating a Perch site to a new host 2,168,983kb and is too large to upload and fails, can you help.

Is there any release news? 3.3? 4?

Nice!

Thanks for the update, Gareth S.

Thanks Gareth S

Does that mean that all of the addons for Version 4 are also ready to go? And is Version 3 along with all the main addons now PHP 8 compatible?

Can we expect a blog entry then, perhaps?

Can you provide an updated, realistic release date?

Yes. Update and details of new features, sneak peek would be nice. Just to shut us impatient Perch developers up.

Quote from tonyastley

You're not alone in this. I had a similar thread a while back.

A perch_region_order would be fantastic to semantically control the order regions are shown in the admin area as they are a little unpredictable when trying to insert a region in between two existing regions.

Region ordering would be fantastic, to allow for programmatic ordering of regions.

As for my other point about having to save twice, when multiple tabs are open; it really is quite poor that nothing has been said about this at any stage (the previous owners in particular said nothing of which I am aware) since it means you must first do a dummy save and then instigate a real save with or without fields and controls, or data; since the data and any selections simply disappear, which is a pain not least because of time wasted but also data loss and adds to a less than quality experience.

It would be great if the current developers could comment on this since I don't believe it to be too much a stretch of the imagination; to think that a Content Editor might want to have multiple similar edit pages open in separate browser tabs, e.g., via CTRL + CLICK on a region and then have to update database entries for each page, whether or not any new content has been added.

On a side note, as far as I know "Republish Pages does not achieve simple update of data in the database, i.e., when a template changes slightly.