Posts by ex-jedi

    Thanks for getting back to us drewm. I think most of us would like to see something soon so a 3.x would be welcome.


    Would you consider allowing some to help with Perch maintenance and development? You have mentioned that you wanted community members to contribute more, I recall you saying that some of Perch's first-party apps were built as examples to encourage others to build their own and make them available. You also mentioned the possibility of a Perch marketplace type thing to give devs more support to build apps and add-ons. As it looks like making a Perch marketplace isn't viable right now, allowing some to help maintain Perch would seem to answer the call for more community involvement.


    We all want to see Perch survive and thrive. We're a little dismayed though that it seems to be withering on the vine right now, especially as there are talented devs who are eager to help. There's still a lot of enthusiasm for Perch in the community.

    drewm - I understand with your recent new roles, time is a valuable commodity. I'd be more than willing to help on a volunteer basis (no strings attached) to do some PR's to fix bugs anything else you'd need help with.

    This seems logical. If Perch isn't viable as a full time endeavour at the moment, opening it up a bit makes sense. The community is compitently handling most of the support on the forum, I'm sure there are devs with enough skill to help with the codebase.

    When V4 was announced we were given a rough timeframe, which was missed due to issues which have been discussed elsewhere on the forum. Can we expect some news soon about a revised timeframe for it?


    At the moment we don't know if it'll be weeks months or years before release or even before announcements. Could we have some idea of what the roadmap is please?

    I was very relieved to hear Perch isn't going away, but could we have even a loose idea about when V4 might land and if Perch shop will get any updates. At the moment it's difficult to know if it's going to be weeks, months or even longer.

    I wonder how many people have got that message about reusing licences? And I imagine if that loophole isn't closed that many users will reason "it can't be that much of a problem, if they really wanted us not to reuse licences they'd stop it".


    This gets to the nub of the problem (well for me at least), that the lack of communication from Perch leaves us guessing about so much stuff. I know they have clients that we don't hear about that might have been kept in the loop, but for most of us we have very little to go on. So when we try to sell Perch to new clients who ask about what the future is for it, we have to guess. Are they changing the licence model... When is this bug getting fixed... When's v4 coming out... Etc... We have to guess.


    I will always use Perch when I can. I have no plans to jump ship and I'm very happy to hear that Perch is still being developed and it's not going away, but it's like trying to read tea leaves.

    Thanks Drew for responding. Any ideas about what the future Path for Perch is? Have you come to any decisions about the licencing model? And what can the community to to help?

    Success is subjective. The product is stable enough even without frequent updates. That's a success. I'm still purchasing licenses. That's a success. I still get Perch development contract work on new projects from agencies (hopefully they are buying licenses and not reusing old ones). That's a success. You and me among others willingly paid for the registered developer program. That's a success.


    Perhaps It's been a slow 1-2 years for Perch in terms of development. Some may consider this the worst year for Perch, yet many are still eager to keep using it (and they are). That's a success.


    So yeah I'm still calling their 10 years run successful (not perfect).

    I agree. Every product or service needs a course correction from time to time. I'm positive that a change to the pricing model and more communication will save the day!

    I was suggesting that even if you pay for updates after the initial period that a licence is locked, so yes just domain reassignments. Good point though about businesses changing their domains though, I didn't think of that. I agree that reaching out to Perch would probably do the trick.

    Regarding the subject of monthly/annual subscription – by switching to a standard subscription model, I could see this being the final nail in the coffin for Perch. However, using the approach where you only pay to get updates à la Sketch and Craft, is a much better compromise I think.

    Agreed. hus_hmd had some good ideas about pricing models. Though I forgot though that there already is a subscription offer for multiple licences.

    I also think they should consolidate Perch and Runway.

    Not sure about this though. I still like regular Perch and it is quite powerful despite the 'really little content management system' tagline. There's a lot of information we're not privy too so we don't know how popular regular Perch is compared to runway. But I agree that £50 is too little.


    At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, I think stand alone licences should be locked after a year so they can't be reused. I imagine licence reuse is a sizable chunk of lost revenue. But maybe that would work differently for subscriptions?

    I agree 100%. Perch is one of my favorite products to work with and I'm hopeful that v4 will be a breath of fresh air. I also agree that the lack of communication is very frustrating.

    1. More communication = less uncertainty
    I love working with Perch and would love it to evolve and prosper. I don’t care too much, when v4 will land, but to keep selling Perch to my clients, the occational sign of life would be helpful. With every quote I write, I am pondering whether or not to propose Perch and whether or not to quote for an ongoing maintenance fee. It could be considered easy money, if there is only one update a year, but that makes you wonder, where Perch is headed and might lead to unpleasant discussion with clients. (Also, an approximately bi-monthly update cycle, gave us a good “excuse” to be in closer touch with clients.)

    I heartily agree, the radio silence is a bit of a worry. I'd also like to see some more input here on the forum from Perch HQ. I understand the desire to have the community play an active role in support but if feels like somewhat of a vacuum has been created.